--- Important Intersite Matches --- - Talk Angling fishing chat and tackle advice

chavender · 11th December 2007, 12:50 PM

Its Time for things to be thrown n the air and shake things up abit & pour idea's And thoughts about the future of the Intersites and how they're run into the melting pot and hopefully something good will come out of it all & a Plan will emerge too take things forward into a possitive brighter future.

things need too be organised properley with a system we can all live with and respect.

too this end i'll propose a few of my thoughts to get things moving.

1.Each site involved will be responsable for organising A match (7*).

2.Each site selects a Intersite liaison person ,who's responsable for keeping a eye their sites teams and organsing recuitment for matches (borrowing from other sites if needed) and making sure things run smoothley and the Information is current and uptodate (by keeping suplimentry records/team sheets etc) and will be in touch with the other liasion's too.

3.We select a overseeing group (the liasion members) to act as overseer's and tojudcate/decide on policy/rules & how things are done .(as last year and this past year too a greater degree things have been a bit adhoc which has caused some confusion / heated debate as those organising the matches have done thngs dfferent to how traditionaly things are done !!

4.We need a set formula for the matches ,governing the teams who can take part (ie no double teaming ! etc)

5.teams:
Isn't it time Total Fishing & Total-fishing club where two seporate teams ? TF & TFC

this would boost the numbers to fish some of the matches .

i'd also like to introduce another site into the intersite series - AnglersTalk (AT) not a big site (as yet) but the more we have the better (fresh blood!)

this would help fill in some gaps where not all sites can field teams for all matches ! so there should be at least four teams avalable (hopefully) for each match from:
total-fishing (TF)
Maggotdrowning (MD)
TalkAngling {TA)
AnglingForums (AF)
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Total-fishing Club (TFC)
AnglerTalk (AT)
Other guest teams ?

6.Is it time for Teams of eight (+2) this would make it easier for site to field full teams ! and with possibly 6 site's too choose from at least 40-48 people fishing each match !.plus if a match is under subscribed (fewer teams taking part , the reserves can be used to boost the teams from eight too ten if needed !)

7*.Matches:
some of the previous match organiser's have allready stated they're willing to organise the same matches again.which is good as they done a fantastic job so far.but it would be nice too tie it in to the idea of each site organising a match each !.I beleave the following are willing to organise these matches so far!

gareth malman=northern (Md)
Pikey=southern (AF)
carpcruncher=individual (tf/tfc?)
which meens the following would need confirming as too which site would prefer which match etc (ooohh let the squabling begin ha ha)
Midlands = (tf/Tfc?)
western = (TA?)
eastern =(AT)
(this is only based on who organised 07 matches and new site AT gets easten (someone got too do it ) ,this would be a fair way of doing things and would mean every site has a involvement and responsability.

8.fishing eligibility :those wishing too fish for a site must be a regular member of at least there chosen first choice site (der most are already!) and can be casual members to suplimentary sites 9second choices) by posting occationally on said sites in the next six months !

this way if your site is over subscribed you can still get to fish the matches but under a second choice ! and if your loyalty prevents you from fishing for one of the bg three sites (TF,Md,TA) you can sign up with AF or AT A neutral site : Anglers Talk - Message Board - Yuku which I can garentee a warm welcome all new casual members as its a new site bourn out of the chaos of the old anglingtimes/gofishing debacle & has no history of intersite rivalry yet !{ok so i own it Ha ha

) }.This use of secondary choice would help boost the numbers taking part (its what some of us have always done) 7 help ensure full turn outs

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these are just idea's to get the whole thing back on a firm footing and organised properly .
I took on overseeing things too ensure thngs moved forward ,as these matches are great fun and i want them too continue to grow and get better but keeping check on it all is too much for one person as we all have other resposabilities anf crap to take care off which is why i'm sugesting each site has a liasion person then the responsability would be shared between all sites.none of my sugestions are absolute just ideas too get things started .If you have better ones lets hear them.

WCA · 11th December 2007, 01:45 PM

Steve in all fairness why over complicate things? I would personally like to see set venues for the regions so the arguments over "which venue" stop.

There were other forums in the past that wanted to join in but couldn`t field a team for at least three of the venues. This IMO should be the way to go. Can AT field a team for at least 3 venues?

As I see it , and I think I have a bit of knowledge in the matter , the Intersite organiser/coordinator is just that. It only takes a few minutes each day for you to `bump` threads and liase with each site. When I did it everyone was kept up to date. Dont get me wrong I`m not having a pop at you mate but if you keep on top of things then there will be no need for confusion.

Set the guidelines early on and stick to them....if there is info posted on one site , make sure it is copied/pasted to the rest.

I totally agree with TF & TFC as seperate teams....we have 2 forums so 2 teams seems fair.

Brian G · 11th December 2007, 05:05 PM

Yes each site should have a coordinator, whose role should be to receive and pass on information to and from other coordinators, this should eliminate any miss understandings and give a clear chain of communication.
I fully agree to the addition of a further forum that forum should be Anglers Talk, who before commiting to joining the Intersite series should understand the need to be able to attend all the matches organised.
I dont see that TF Club is an additional forum but an extension to TF.
Since the control of the Intersite series was passed on by Webbo of Maggot Drowners TA has run the Midlands match, 2006 was at Heronbrook 2007 at Stockton, the Midlands is where TA is at its strongest membership wise. We are not exactly at a strong point in the West although I was happy to run the Match at Hillview and given a similar venue would be happy to do it again.
Team size does need fixing be it 8 or 10 this allows the organisor a clear understanding of how many pegs would be required.
Venues are another bone of contention and whilst I like Stockton it would appear that it is a peggy venue with some areas being somewhat devoid of fish at certain times of the day, as was seen in 2007 with many only catching very low weights. With only some 60 plus pegs Stockton would be a poor choice in my opinion for a fifty peg match thats assuming BWB allows all of the water to be used.
I have no problem using the loan angler principal having fished for TF twice last year, but it should be accepted that any forum entering the series can not rely on this and should be able to fulfill the original commitment, ok if there is a shortfall on the day but using another forums anglers only denies the loaning forum the ability to use those anglers should they have a no show on the day.
I also believe that cut off dates require implementing for each round, by which time the peg fee at least should be paid, and not leave the organiser with the problem of empty pegs. I was still chasing payments in the week of one of the matches I ran last year and had to adjust pools payouts on the day to cover eventual non shows.

chavender · 12th December 2007, 05:59 PM

if we can sort out a stratagy we can all adhere too ,a formula for the matches ( ie trophies +£5 pools ) with a system that everyone agree's to and sticks too with proper comunications between sites and organiser's and who ever is co-ordinating things/results etc .then we can worry about venues selection. Then things will be on a firm footing

woodhouse · 12th December 2007, 09:29 PM

How bout a canal or River?

jay411 · 13th December 2007, 09:23 AM

Yeah ! Woodhouse
About time

Oneabung · 13th December 2007, 11:22 AM

I would love to see one of the rounds on a river or canal but can you actually see it happening???

jay411 · 13th December 2007, 11:29 AM

Not a chance !

Oneabung · 13th December 2007, 11:31 AM

On the number of anglers I would suggest the following - change the scoring system to be your best 8 results out of 10 - then you can turn up with 8, 9 or 10 anglers (preferably 10)..... each team would need to pay pegging for 10 pegs even if they turned up with 8 on the day. This would mean a change from the sections of 4 scoring to an overall scoring system.... peg the venue out with anglers spead evenly but then just find out where each angler has come in the match - the winner gets 1 point second 2 etc... then just add up your best eight and thats your team score.

peter9000uk · 14th December 2007, 08:41 AM

One round was on a canal in the early days, namely the Kennet & Avon near Devizes and a lovely stretch of canal it is too. The last couple of years it moved to Willow Park