rive t

It is such a pity that everyone does not feel the same,

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GeoffH

This is nothing to do with Barstons and i would like to thank them for their honesty in the matter. I just don't want to take the chance of spreading KHV to other fisheries. I hope you all understand.

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rive t

About six weeks ago, we were all asked to sign a petition, to stop illegals catching and eating our fish, which i hope we all signed. KHV is a far bigger problem to our fish stocks, Yet we are all willing to gamble spreading this disease by fishing these infected waters. People are saying that there is a chance that most waters could be infected, but they are only guessing. When we find out for definite that a water is infected, don't we owe it to our sport to leave that water alone, to stop the increase of this awful disease.

Maybe the time has come for all fishery owners to protect there own pools by providing keep nets and landing nets to every angler fishing there waters. The cost has got to be less, than the loss of earnings, or the restocking of these waters after a large fish kill.

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PeteP

It would be very nice for all fishery owners to provide all nets. It would mean peg fees would go up, but you would have less hassle carrying nets and stink bags.

They would need to provide bank sticks as well. You would hope they were kept in good nick, but some places I've been too that do give out nets can be somewhat mousey. They also suffer theft of nets.

Be sensible about things and DRY nets out during the week you don't go, UV will kill it, or have two sets if you go two days on the trot.

I always hang and wash mine when I get home.

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I appreciate Rive-t what you are saying and your fears about spreading it about. THe solution you suggest of not going to any water that's declared it has it, would be an answer. I fear that if you take that stance continually each time a new location is verified then in a few years time you will be out of places to fish that have carp in them.

A lot if not all commis have been supplied at some time or another from a limited number of suppliers. I know from personal experience that some deliveries are not always from where they claim, with fish dealers obtaining fish from other dealers and until recently KHV was not notifiable and was not regularly checked for. The fish kills that have been seen by anglers have been passed off in the past as low oxygen, result of new stocking a parasite, farm sprays. Strangely some of the so called parasite causes never affect the silvers that can also get the same parasite. Strangely the low oxygen doesn't do the silvers in. Some Farm sprays would nobble most living elements of a fishery.

I'm with Keith Arthur on this one, we are sitting near a time bomb.

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[quote=PeteP]I appreciate Rive-t what you are saying and your fears about spreading it about. The solution you suggest of not going to any water that's declared it has it, would be an answer. I fear that if you take that stance continually each time a new location is verified then in a few years time you will be out of places to fish that have carp in them.

There is a strong possibility, that if we do not take this stance, then your fears could well become fact.

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[quote=PeteP]It would be very nice for all fishery owners to provide all nets. It would mean peg fees would go up, but you would have less hassle carrying nets and stink bags.

They would need to provide bank sticks as well. You would hope they were kept in good nick, but some places I've been too that do give out nets can be somewhat mousy.

You sound as though you are trying to protect tackle makers profit from the sale of nets, who cares if the nets "look mousy" as long as the fishery would be better protected, it is in the interest of the fishery to supply the safety of the fish

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GeoffH

look lads i am waiting to hear from the EA as soon as i get this information i will post it on the forums but for now i do feel that these place should provide nets. Its in there own best interest to do so. I know the response is going to be who should bare the cost, in the long run its always the angler so why now should it be any different. I just want to make sure if i am fishing a venue i come away with only your pools money nothing else.

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GeoffH

Hi Geoff



In answer to your question, when fish are ill they need rest, fishing a water that has the disease will only stress the fish more. Also there may be a chance that you pass the infection on to other waters that you may fish at a later date.



My personal advise is NO do not fish while it is infested. Please see statement from EA below.



The Environment Agency does not have the powers to close down fisheries infected by the virus, they have advised all infected premises to cease angling and add their own biosecurity measures to ensure that the disease is contained

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PeteP

Rive-t not at all the point I was making was that some fisheries I have fished where nets have been provided had holes in them, ie mousey or mousy. Some big enough to let fish out.

Certainly have no desire to protect the tackle trade.

Geoff you've probably already fished unwittingly at fisheries already infected that haven't yet disclosed or been tested or had an out break that would raise suspicion. That's hypothetical of course.

KHV is temperature triggered and those surviving fish are generally considered to be infected but immune, but potentially infectious. So would you advocate that once KHV has been identified that the owners should be forced, like the farms with foot n mouth, to a mandatory 100% cull?

To do it properly the pools lakes etc would have to be drained all fish removed and burnt and the lake beds limed for min two years before they could be restocked.

No wonder the EA has no powers to close they don't want to be seen to be putting people out of business, rather contain the disease or accept that it is now a common problem and one which we all have to do our bit to reduce it's spread. Personally I feel the horse has long since left the stable and is on a plate in France.

We simply will have to either not fish at places as you suggest or take every advised precaution that the experts give us.

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