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GeoffH · 27th September 2007, 12:29 PM

Your Probably right, about others having the infection, but i do not understand that what you cant see cant hurt you theory. The EA can only warn fisheries and they must take action to stop the infection spreading, Nets are the best solution and as for it affecting there business, i don't feel for them because they are happy to take the money at the end of the day the best businesses alway make sure they are one step ahead and if it means spending money to make money thats what they will do. As you say its a business.

The EA should publish the fisheries i,ve no problem fishing a venue that as KHV i do feel that they should do everything in there power to stop it spreading.

Larry Teepot · 27th September 2007, 01:16 PM

do you think its only in commercials.....i don't it must have gone into normal waters more than likely canals have it... rivers have it... if it pricks you conscience don't go fishing.. its really that simple... doesn't bother me i dry my nets and to the best of my knowledge i am not helping to spread it.. i have had waters closed down for foot and mouth when they TELL me i cant go thats when i will stop....or look for public parks to fish..till then i will plod on.... Peter why cant i contact you about Dog Lane?????

GeoffH · 27th September 2007, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Teepot

do you think its only in commercials.....i don't it must have gone into normal waters more than likely canals have it... rivers have it... if it pricks you conscience don't go fishing.. its really that simple... doesn't bother me i dry my nets and to the best of my knowledge i am not helping to spread it.. i have had waters closed down for foot and mouth when they TELL me i cant go thats when i will stop....or look for public parks to fish..till then i will plod on.... Peter why cant i contact you about Dog Lane?????

Well what can i say, Waters should be tested and i know that a few have sneaked through the EA but to fish these water in my opinion is irresponsible if you ever have any doubt you should contact the EA and ask them to look into it. they cant close down the fisheries but they should issue a notice saying its infected.

Brian G · 27th September 2007, 02:03 PM

The fact of the matter is the EA are powerless to inspect a water, to test for KHV means taking large samples of fish and killing them, two or three aint enough more like twenty or thirty is required, fine if its small stockies at a few ounces, but what if the residual stock average 5lb a piece, but all that says is those fish sampled did not have KHV. How often should a fishery be tested because it aint a one off thing and is likely continue for many years to come as shown by the increase in reported cases this year.
What does seem hopefull is that most of the fisheries that contracted the virus in the past do recover and in some case fish even better, perhaps we will see the end of carp filled waters as owners look to other species to restock with.

PeteP · 27th September 2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian G

...... perhaps we will see the end of carp filled waters as owners look to other species to restock with.

Yeah Right.

We might be seeing the demise of the ton-up brigade, but then again if these fish survive and pass on immunity maybe not.

cornerstone · 27th September 2007, 09:53 PM

Brian mate,they will just stock them again with carp.Next time around it will be something like F3's,that will be resistant to the khv virus and it will be business as usual.Im afraid we have got used to on site cafes and shops,and most importantly NO walking.Me and larry have struggled to get 20 or more anglers per match this season,3 years ago a bad turnout was less than 30.40-50 peggers no problem six or so years ago.One thing i have noticed is that once anglers go from canals to carp lakes they never come back.I have to admit that getting used to fine hooks and line becomes a problem after carp bashing,maybe one of the reasons they dont return.But i dare say me and larry will carry on as normal and see what happens next year.
cornerstone.
ps:No one can blame larry for passing on KHV,he hasnt wet his net enough.Had to get that one in pete.

GeoffH · 28th September 2007, 06:53 AM

Ive not been fishing for that long 3 years, so I've been brought up on commercials, and to be honest Pete you cant tell me you don't get a buzz out of catching a carp. Fishing was in decline and commercials brought it back going back 10 to 20 years most clubs were run from the workingman's clubs but now with the demise of the coal and steel industry they have closed most of them and with the closer the decline of angling commercials have given it a bit of a lift and commercials with carp seem to be doing pretty well. So it is a little bit irresponsible of the fishery to not supply nets or close down until something is sorted, and if i can see that who as only been fishing for a few years why can't someone who as been doing it for a lot longer.

GeoffH · 28th September 2007, 06:55 AM

By the way i posted the reply i got from the EA and they advise angler not to fish. So what ever the people at Barstons say they are not listening to the people that are there to help them.

Larry Teepot · 28th September 2007, 12:45 PM

Geoff not sure who told you fishing was in decline......bad info there mate, commercials have ruled with there pockets, no close season was instigated by them. Personally you can stick your carp..i would rather go head to head with any one for silver fish.As for the EA you will find out in time they cannot make a decision they say what ever they think is right at the time...this is not about Barston this is about any fishery with KHV and have the EA told us what venues have KHV to quote my northern friends have they ekkers like if its that bad why have they not advised us to stay away from other venues they know has the disease.They have no balls its all about money they wont even send there bailiffs out to people who are fishing out of season Quoting "well there arnt really enough of them for us to bother" if you think you shouldn't go to these places stay at home its your free choice

GeoffH · 28th September 2007, 01:52 PM

Larry When my Dad used to fish with the local club 2 busses were put on for the Trent from the local workingman’s club they used to be 4 clubs in our area now we have 2 and both only have 18 member compared to 100 that’s a massive decline as for barstons i was looking forward to fishing it but i feel that it would be irresponsible of me thats all. All Barstons have to do is buy some nets this in the long run would benefit themselves.

Its alright people going on the web and looking up KHV and posting but the people who should no (Enviroment agency) are telling people not to go to these places. Thats the point i am trying to make, i really was looking forward to Barstons but feel that they are only putting other fisheries in danger of losing fish. Your right i do have a choice thats why i intend to stay away, until told diffrent by the people who know what they are talking about.