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Old 11th February 2008, 09:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just been to a meeting (with my hat on) Are the days of the ACA and NFA and many other organizing body's numbered....

well the answer to that statement is YES ... to sum it up in a nut shell they there selves are setting up one body to speak for angling . If all goes to plan they will disband the old organizations and we will have one voice.It will be run by professionals no jobs for the boys all signing all dancing new body.Obviously there is a lot more to it than what i have put in this post but its alleged to be gonna happen by June 1st......so that is really great news if it comes to fruition .....hopefully the news will break with all the details in the next few days
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great news. look forward to joining
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Old 12th February 2008, 08:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Never been a member of either, don't really know much about them.
Is anyone else on here a member ?
What sort of work/service do they provide & what are the benefits of joining to the average angler (if any) ?

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theres a lot more to it than just them 2 ian....even the EA are for it...Aca fights pollution Nfa is a leading voice in our sport.........does all the nationals and fisho mania thing..its actually based by you home peirrepoint. but its all the angling bodys that are up for it.......im sure the news will be out in a few days...
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mr teepot .did they give any timescales for the total intigration of the bodies. just wondering about the NFA commitment re nationals ect. also was anything muted about membership? quite a lot of people i know would like it to be compulsary via the licence fee, or through additional VAT on fishing tackle. just wondering if any of this was discussed. regards ian
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although the EA want it ...it will not be thru the EA that its funded.... june was the date i heard NAFAC i believe are about to sign papers to disband when it happens no subscription fees had been mentioned......the trouble is i have no paper work till all the meetings have taken place tonight there is one in Doncaster i believe Abergavenny 2moro and London Monday....presumably all nationals and fishos will just carry on ...under the one angling voice ...whatever it is decided to call it
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were the sea anglers represented
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yes Ian..... they were keen as well
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thats amazing concidering they were thought by many to be reluctant . i can honestly say this is the best news ive had since my grandchild was born. lets hope we can all speak with one united voice.. well done to all, and my personal thanks mr teapot for giving up your time on our behalf.
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Carrying on from the other thread...

LT, I've been reading all the stuff from the ACA since the start of the year about the single body. Having had extensive dealings with both the NFA and the ACA, plus involvement with the NFA coaching scheme and other coaches throughout all angling disciplines, it still leaves me saying: "how can one body represent all anglers if all anglers are not represented?"
The game anglers can't even decide amongst themselves who is their number one body and they are much better organised than coarse anglers.
The ACA and the NFA if you put their membership figures together only account for something like 10,000 maximum out of 800,000 annual rod licences sold.
Now I would love a strong unified body representing all anglers; it would be a fantastic force for the countryside, our natural habitat and anglers. But something like 75% of all anglers are not in the slightest interested.

We cannot agree on our best long term interests because they will end fishing for some and, quite frankly, the anglers who will get the best of any deal will be game anglers. Plus ca change!

Assuming it does happen, I would like to see Mark Lloyd head up a unified body. Having had several meetings and worked with him recently, I feel he has an excellent angling head on his shoulders, as well as being a very intelligent bloke and well informed by the people he has around him.
Sadly, I expect he would be too self-deprecating and would be passed over in favour of someone like Paul Baggaley who, in my experience, is a business man and not an angler, presiding over a body that tends to jump off cliffs with its foot in its mouth (to mix several metaphors).

I bet at least 50% of anglers in this country have never even heard of either the ACA or the NFA. How can either of them, or a unified body comprising mainly them, represent all anglers?
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