compleat tangler

is anyone of the same opinion as me that club anglers get a raw deal when it comes to pegging. we all see results in the press big weights etc cant wait to get on the venue only to be dissapointed because 25 club anglers fishing peg to peg is a different proposition to 20 open anglers spread over the same 80 peg lake. there is one venue near me not mentioning any names that will put 85 anglers on the lake (full capacity) on a weekend when clubs are on it but puts 25 anglers spread over 6 lakes for an open. the club are providing more funds for the owner pay the same pegging fee but get crammed in. and before anyone mentions angling ability that b*****ks.there are many excellent anglers who fish at club level for what ever reason who could easily compete and win at open level but choose not to.
any way its just greed on the owners part and i know its a business but if i ran a fishery i would run it fairly give everyone space and reap the benefit of repeat business because of satisfied anglers catching more wanting to return.some of these 'open' matches are nothing more than glorified pleasure sessions where you can use a net.it totally distorts the venues true potential under real match conditions. In fact club anglers in my opinion are often the only guardians of the true principles of match fishing.

__________________
the carrot bites back
ooh you are awful!!

woodhouse

I've been saying it for the last 5 years.

__________________
Another year in the Championship.....

D N W

The other side of the coin is that as an open angler who fishes matches at the venue's through the winter in the bitter cold keeping the venue ticking over, has soon as the better weather and better fishing kicks in the open match anglers are kicked of lakes to allow the club anglers on who will provide more money for the owner. Over the year i pay more to each venue to fish as the club anglers are no were to be seen during the winter. So who gets the raw deal.

__________________
Steve Davies

Larry Teepot

then its time to talk with your feet...go else where.Its that simple..if you are paying for pegs ask for the ones you want .Ask how much the whole lake is sometimes its a better deal that way.Owners should be looking to help clubs (most do ) docklow went out of there way to accommodate us thats how they get people to go back. my philosophy at the moment is if you dont ask ...they dont know what you want

__________________
How can I go on From day to day ....Who can make me strong in every way.... Where can I be safe ....Where can I belong In this great big world of sadness

compleat tangler

a lot of the venues near me are often booked up for twelve months of the year at weekends by clubs and open matches tend to be run during the week so as to accomadate all.

__________________
the carrot bites back
ooh you are awful!!

compleat tangler

the trouble is larry that a lot of clubs are hoodwinked into thinking they are going to a venue that is producing big weights under'match' conditions. if i asked this particular owner for the lake he would i have no doubt charge for every peg as he can fill them on a weekend based on the weights published in the press. i agree there are many owners that understand anglers needs but there are plenty that dont.

__________________
the carrot bites back
ooh you are awful!!

D N W

Yes there are very good anglers who fish club matches but there are also a high proportion of poor anglers. If the pegging is tight, this makes known flier pegs even more vital and if the poor anglers draw these pegs the match weight will be low. At the venue near me when lakes are taken by the club anglers the open anglers have to fish with the same tight pegging and the weights arn't far of normal weights due to the overall better class of angler.

__________________
Steve Davies

richie

That's the total reason that i dont fish these venues . It ain't carp that i dislike , just the majority of venues there in . I went two or three times about 10 years ago , near enough sat on someones knee , when they fed and the wind blew it went in my peg ,so never went again and that suits me just fine . I know there are venues with well spaced out pegs but not where i come from so I'll stick to the canals were its double pegged and its down to me to ruin my peg , and not someone else

D N W

Richie its not just commercials that the grasp for money is to be felt i used to fish the trent at fiskerton and the pegging was quite wide so you could run a float through and catch. When the feeder became dominant the pegging was changed and more pegs put into the same length because you didn't need the run through. If you wanted to run a float through it would be in the next blokes swim and still not hit bottem. Know because people don't fish the trent so much it would be treble pegged to get the same run through.

__________________
Steve Davies

silver fish

Vote with your feet guys, it's the only way. Until owners feel the pinch, they will do what they want. Remember, it's a buyers market, we have the upper hand use it.