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2nd July 2008, 11:40 AM
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Latest Match Fishing mag.
Two things,
One - what is the purpose of 'sticky mag' ? I have heard of it before & assumed the maggots stayed glued together for a while, but in the Will Raison article he says they come apart after a few seconds in the water so why not just use a maggot feeder ?
Two - I am always surprised at the line diamters that the pro's claim to use, I would've expected them to be finer than 0.20 & 0.18. I can understand wanting something robust if they're bagging but would've thought they be 0.12 to 0.14 hooklengths for presentation. Is it good advice to go heavy in case of a lump or is it better advice for the average numpt (who is unlikely to be in a bagging situation) to fish finer -
Generally, would you start heavy & lighten up if bites were scarce or start lighter & beef it up if your first fish is a lump (assuming you don't know how the venue is fishing).
Ian
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2nd July 2008, 11:42 AM
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P.s. Anyone got any good advice on how to fish Hayfield Adams Lake (nr Doncaster) this Sunday ?
Thanks
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2nd July 2008, 02:24 PM
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What will want to happen is for the maggots to come out of the feeder very quickly , when catching a lot of fish you dont want to be bringing a fish in with a feeder that is still half full , as an blockend would do ,as this will spread bait allover . The sticky mag feeder can be good for chub on wide canals were by using a long hooklength the bait comes out of the feeder on impact and your hookbait travels to the bottom with your feed .
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2nd July 2008, 02:28 PM
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Ian I once read an article on Adams by Tom Pickering using chopped worm & caster fished in the margin, his advice was to find 4' & feed via a kinder pot every drop,Ive allways stuck with this & it works fine for me, also feed about 10mtr continuous with pellets keep having a look there with the same 4' rig.
..Jethro..
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2nd July 2008, 04:10 PM
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The point of the sticky mag feeder is that the maggots come out a lot quicker than when fed through a blockend.
Will's attitude to fishing is that he doesn't want anything to let him down, particularly if he has to catch a lot of fish fast, say towards the end of a match to haul in the leaders. He knows that 0.12 or 0.14 will not be strong enough to haul in a big weight of carp or skimmers for that matter.
When others may scale down towards the end of a match, Will may consider putting stronger gear on cause he has to get fish in quicker!
On the feeder, that hooklength should be laid on the bottom (although wait until you see our Speed Mould film to see how mono behaves under water), so why would you need to fish lighter?
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2nd July 2008, 04:44 PM
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If you watch the korda underwater films their thinking is that the fish can actually see the thicker lines and are cautious of the main line so swim around and over it to get to the bait where they will pick up bait off the bottom and feed happily . The problem arises when they cant see the line so they swim into it and this spooks them which leads to them frighten the other fish . I'm sure i read an article on this and one of wills mates recons this is why they fish thicker lines and it reduces liners , how true this is , is anyone's guess
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2nd July 2008, 05:58 PM
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This time of the year on the commercials you will be suprised at just how heavy a line you can get away with, hungry carp tend to put there stomach before what they see
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2nd July 2008, 07:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jethro
Ian I once read an article on Adams by Tom Pickering using chopped worm & caster fished in the margin, his advice was to find 4' & feed via a kinder pot every drop,Ive allways stuck with this & it works fine for me, also feed about 10mtr continuous with pellets keep having a look there with the same 4' rig.
..Jethro..
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Thanks for the replies lads, I'm probably over cautious & it cost me two break offs in an open at Hallcroft on Saturday - would'nt have effected the the placings much if I'd got them in but my weight would've looked better.
Jethro, two swims & one rig !... sounds like my kind of fishing !!
(I'm right in thinking 4' is 4 feet & not a mega shallow 4 inch rig ?)
Ian
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2nd July 2008, 07:40 PM
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Hayfields
Shallow wag 10mm pellet, 2-4 pellets every 20 seconds, dont forget to feed whilst playing fish, theres some right lumps in there, ghosties, take a while to get in.
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2nd July 2008, 08:34 PM
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The original purpose of stick mag was that small moulded balls of maggots could be catapulted far further and with more accuracy than loose maggots, cant remember the name of the water where it started ut the technique there was feeding maggots and getting the carp up in the water fighting for them, sticky mag gave the angler the option of fishing a bit further out than the guy on the next peg who wasnt using them, as pressure built up on the carp they moved further out.
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