Fishomania now a Joke? - Talk Angling fishing chat and tackle advice

Oneabung · 20th July 2008, 08:24 AM

Any of you guys watch the Fishomania final yesterday?

Well I knew it was on Arena at Cudmore and moved there as a fairer venue and to give a closer more exciting final.... then they on a circular lake go and just peg either side and put a rope across next to the 4 end pegs that doing this created.

When will they learn - why not if you have a circular lake put everyone evenly spaced all the way round? At least this would have given everyone an inside line, all that happened this this was a joke. Perhaps they will learn for next year.

Well done to our Matt, class performance but never really stood a chance once he had Darren on the end peg next to him.

rive t · 20th July 2008, 08:30 AM

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silver fish · 20th July 2008, 04:48 PM

I think we have to remember who runs the show! It's not just for the 16 fishing, it's the TV audience that counts. Too many of the competitors were moaning in the run up, saying it should be worth more, and that they didn't like the pegging. Simple answer don't fish!
The whole competition is made for TV, so we have to give a little. THERE IS NOT ONE EQUAL, FAIR VENUE ANYWHERE.

Ian.B · 20th July 2008, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rive t

This isn't worth replying to

...but you thought you would anyway

Ian.B · 20th July 2008, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Oneabung

Any of you guys watch the Fishomania final yesterday?

Well I knew it was on Arena at Cudmore and moved there as a fairer venue and to give a closer more exciting final.... then they on a circular lake go and just peg either side and put a rope across next to the 4 end pegs that doing this created.

When will they learn - why not if you have a circular lake put everyone evenly spaced all the way round? At least this would have given everyone an inside line, all that happened this this was a joke. Perhaps they will learn for next year.

I didn't watch it (don't have Sky) but did see a diagram of how they proposed to rope off the lake in a mag a couple of months ago - I thought exactly the same as you... why not just spread everyone out as evenly as possible, seemed obvious.

Just a general observation from reading other articles on this 'final'.
It seems that trying to eliminate the advantage of an end peg or hot peg gets discussed quite a bit, but surely the final itself could only be completely fair if all the qualifying matches were run the same way, otherwise what's to stop claims that 'angler A' only made the final because he had a run of luck at the drawbag....
But eliminating flyers & end pegs at qualifiers isn't going to happen is it, and I for one would say that's a good thing. The luck of the draw is part of the match, it happens week in week out at all levels of match angling & this event should be no different...... big money or not.

matt6900 · 20th July 2008, 09:01 PM

the diagram in the magazines are misleading, the two ends of the lake that were not pegged are only around 7-8metres between the waters edge and the other side of the path,(before the bank drops off), so it would be impossible to peg anglers on these ends, if they did you wouldnt have room for spectators, camera men or even stewards to move around freely,

also they needed access to the camera men on the islands via boat(health and safety) and because of the camera's on the island they need to run underwater cables to the islands so there needs to be spaces!

markmalin · 20th July 2008, 09:04 PM

matt never really stood a chance???

i was sat behind matt for 5 hours, helped him set up, stood with him at the draw even practiced with him in the week.....

you cant say it was blown when he drew next to darren cox,

he was awesome his positive atitude, he had the venue sussed! and that was commented on a few times, he proved it when the fish was in his peg he caught fish and landed them quicker then anyone on the lake, and for 2 hours he had darren cox looking over looking very worried, darren didnt attack his peg and didnt fish a very good match only beating matt by 2 kilo being on a end peg!

matt fished awesome and if he had have been on the fish he would have been fisho champ! and were going to see him there again!

awesome matt!

sunburntarms · 21st July 2008, 07:38 AM

Fisrt time I have watched fish 'o' mania and I was appalled by a couple of things and had a little gripe about th way it was shot.

You never saw a float go under, towards the end, in the last hour sky right stuck with the top two, at one point in the last half hour, I think it was the 'winning' carp, you saw the cast but then you only watched his face, why not focus on the flaot and see if it goes down, if they did we would of seen him land a carp or something. Instead all we saw was faces.

That was my little gripe.

MY two main complaints are these

1st - LITTER

Andrew Neal the welsh guy had litter in his swim for the entire competition. I spent some of my time yesterday collecting litter out of my swim and the swim next door, I didnt put any in yet I saw it as my place to remove it. Also I dont want to be chucked off and I also thinnk a little bit of effort makes it much better for everyone.

So Andrew Neal why did you have litter in your swim for 5 hours, I bet if I fished Cudmore and had a mars drinks bottle in my swim for 5 hours I would get chucked off. Such a great advert for angling that was, welldone.

Second - Smoking

Smoking in sport is banned, so why did we watch Andrew (again) smoke a ciggerette, such a great advert for the sport again, why didnt sky cut away? it is not Andrews fault, it is skys coverage. They should have cut away when he pulled his fags out of his pocket, look at the darts and snooker they have banned smoking, they lost all the sponsorship money.

If we want this to be seen as much as a sport as any other then sky have done us no favours, and maybe the fishing authorites who run fish o mania might have to bring in a a ban of smoking while the comp is on.

It wasnt a bad show and on the whole it was pretty good. But it can be better IMO

Oneabung · 21st July 2008, 08:02 AM

Hey guys, I only posted this thread to start a debate not a war!

I understand what you are saying about needing gaps for the cables and camermen etc, but the idea of moving the final to cudmore was to get a fairer venue and closer contest in the final - the whole point of moving from Hayfield where the end peg keeps running away with it.

Talk to anyone who isnt an angler and all you hear is ITS JUST LUCK THAT FISHING - well we all know there is an element of luck but a far greater amount of skill is required, we would like to see a final that isnt all based on the draw - this is the impression that was given as I watched the final with my 12 year old nephew and he comes out with the comment saying EVEN I COULD WIN OFF THAT PEG!!!

As for my comment as to Matt not standing a chance after the draw - I stand by it, Matt was the form angler going into the final and yes he had a good start but when a class act like him cannot win from a peg it is just proving that he was done at the draw bag.

Matt you say that there wasnt enough room to peg all the way round, surely this just proves that that particular lake is not ideal for the final - there must be better options.

dhumpy · 21st July 2008, 08:05 AM

since wen has smoking in sport been banned?? last time i checked snooker and darts took place inside so obviously smoking is not allowed but i imagine sitting for 5 hours round a lake with £25,000 up for grabs knowing ur in with a chance is enough to make anyone want a fag! and if u watched any of the golf covered by the BBC i might add u wud of seen a number of players and caddy's alike smoking on the way round!!
Anyway well done matt, fished a blinder from the peg he was on and good to see the hair was in top form on draw night!!