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15th August 2008, 01:54 PM
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Honest anglers
How much trust would you put in printed match results when it comes to baits & tactics used (e.g. Joe Bloggs 1st - fishing meat on the long pole shallow).
I'm thinking about fishing an open tomorrow, just looked at recent results & it occurred to me that why would someone spill the beans on a winning tactic if they intend fishing there again ? (& why should they !).
Would you say the kidology tactics through the match are less likely after the match & most anglers are up front ?
Ian
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15th August 2008, 02:16 PM
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You usually find that the guy who won/done well are usually quiet open and honest straight after the match but if you ask him the following week I'm sure things would be different . I never believe whats in the press because the pegs numbers etc are always wrong , the only thing that's right is usually the weight
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15th August 2008, 02:41 PM
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barbel less no more, cheers bbq ;)
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A lot of the 'kidology' comes from the venue owners, its 1 way of getting different feed in your pool 
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15th August 2008, 03:26 PM
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How much trust would you put in printed match results when it comes to baits & tactics used (e.g. Joe Bloggs 1st - fishing meat on the long pole shallow).
I'm thinking about fishing an open tomorrow, just looked at recent results & it occurred to me that why would someone spill the beans on a winning tactic if they intend fishing there again ? (& why should they !).
Would you say the kidology tactics through the match are less likely after the match & most anglers are up front ?
Ian
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Because knowing the tactic is not enough to win, you have to have the skill to perform on the day, so the guy that told you how to do it will more than likely still win.
Most anglers enjoy telling others 'how they did it', its human nature. 
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15th August 2008, 04:12 PM
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I would take everything printed in the match section with a pinch of salt, just to give 2 examples when i was in the west mids i used to fish a silver fish venue that always put the amount of anglers present as 20 - 25 so the match would make the paper even when the average was 12. Secondly i recently fished a match near grantham and in the paper it had me winning the match on meat fishing to an island, in fact i won by fishing pellet down the edge. This was not a deliberate attempt to give false information i told the match organiser exactly how i had caught and between him and the paper it changed. There are lots of examples like this so talking to local experts is the best way to go.
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15th August 2008, 07:32 PM
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I would take everything printed in the match section with a pinch of salt, just to give 2 examples when i was in the west mids i used to fish a silver fish venue that always put the amount of anglers present as 20 - 25 so the match would make the paper even when the average was 12. Secondly i recently fished a match near grantham and in the paper it had me winning the match on meat fishing to an island, in fact i won by fishing pellet down the edge. This was not a deliberate attempt to give false information i told the match organiser exactly how i had caught and between him and the paper it changed. There are lots of examples like this so talking to local experts is the best way to go.
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Excellent reply DNW, & very interesting insight into the world of printed match results !
Good replies all round in fact & the words 'pinch' and 'salt' will now never be far away when reading the results... other than for the weights, which you would assume are very accurate otherwise the fishery could end up looking pretty foolish.
Glad I asked now.
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16th August 2008, 06:57 AM
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I would say 90 - 95% in the angling match reports are correct. There are still genuine match organisers around, there are a couple of rogue Fisheries who lie about the attendance to get more there. Dont forget Ian B some anglers will tell the match organisers wrong info. I always look for the peg no's which are framing anyway and they are usually right. Plus there is the odd miss print I guess, on the whole I would rather read the AT / AM Match results than not just to get an idea on whats going on.
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16th August 2008, 12:08 PM
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most info, is put in by the match organizer or owner he puts in what he,s told if not he puts in what he thinks .but most owners dont put bad results in (not in there int erst).the best info we got was off the Highfield lads on the winter leagues for the bridgy even though they were fishing they would tell you 90% about your peg and still win there section
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17th August 2008, 11:29 AM
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As others have alluded to; a match report in the press is only as accurate as the information given to the reporter!
The other thing to bear in mind is that, match reports can only give a very brief description of the winning methods. Imagine for a moment that the reporter has the right peg number, the correct angler (!), the real bait and the method used, they still cannot give you any idea about how the angler responded to certain situations that nay have arisen during the course of the match.
Did the angler stay on the same method and line all day?
Did the fish move up or down in the water?
Did the wind pick up/die down meaning a change to a heavier/lighter rig was needed.
These kind of scenarios and more are the reason a confident anger will not be afraid to give away some details. If they told you exactly how to fish your peg on a given day, you would still not be able to do it the same way they could.
And then, you could go to a new venue and fish a method or bait that the locals don't even consider and storm it.
But isn't that the beauty of match fishing?
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17th August 2008, 11:51 AM
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As others have alluded to; a match report in the press is only as accurate as the information given to the reporter!
The other thing to bear in mind is that, match reports can only give a very brief description of the winning methods. Imagine for a moment that the reporter has the right peg number, the correct angler (!), the real bait and the method used, they still cannot give you any idea about how the angler responded to certain situations that nay have arisen during the course of the match.
Did the angler stay on the same method and line all day?
Did the fish move up or down in the water?
Did the wind pick up/die down meaning a change to a heavier/lighter rig was needed.
These kind of scenarios and more are the reason a confident anger will not be afraid to give away some details. If they told you exactly how to fish your peg on a given day, you would still not be able to do it the same way they could.
And then, you could go to a new venue and fish a method or bait that the locals don't even consider and storm it.
But isn't that the beauty of match fishing?
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