Hypothetical question (or is it .......) - Page 2 - Talk Angling fishing chat and tackle advice

Ian.B · 18th August 2008, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Teepot

is it really any different to ringing a friend.....everyone gets to a peg these days and rings someone they know fished it before......and asks questions ..same thing to me..phones are banned in nationals if i recall..the only way to learn is to get amongst better anglers

Two good points Larry, i.e. the one about the phone & especially the one about fishing against better anglers - I do believe that the fear of total humiliation by fishing against good anglers really makes you push yourself (to use a current 'buzz phrase' it takes you out of your comfort zone !).

Ian.B · 18th August 2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stevelockett

This answer is without the benefit of checking the information beforehand!
I thought it was against NFA rules to be coached while you are competing in a match. Not that that stops it happening, the role of bank runners could be viewed as coaching and I have seen several instances of anglers getting much more practical help while they fish a match as well.

From a personal point of view, I would not object if someone was fishing a match I was fishing and they had a coach sat with them. I know that most anglers in that scenario would not actually be able to fish in the way the coach wanted them to and some would fight against fishing in the way someone else suggested.

On the more specific point of you moving on, Ian, perhaps you should try a more targeted approach to your own sessions. Go to venues which are dominated by a method you are unfamiliar with and see if you can make it work in practise.
Once you have been catching fish on that method, then try entering a match and see if you can turn up 'blind' to new venues and compete.
How would that make you feel, if you were turning heads from your first visit to a venue?

Since I replied to Larry & Harry (sounds like a double act) personally I thought I'd better acknowledge your reply as well Steve - your good advice is always welcome... & I don't want you getting the hump.

P.s. I like your website & I love Devon - I'm born & bred in the village I live & wouldn't move if I won the lottery, although I'd probably stretch to a second home & Devon would be the area !

stevelockett · 19th August 2008, 10:17 AM

Aah, thanks Ian, I was beginning to think I had wasted some of my typing power on that answer. lol

The website is still under revision, especially on the photo front. I'm spreading the area I cover on the site to include more from the area I cover for the magazines.

Back to the thread; have you tried moving out of your comfort zone then? I know you take in the occasional open match, how about looking at a completely new venue? Perhaps on a canal...

harry911 · 19th August 2008, 10:22 AM

yes ian would like that

SteveL · 19th August 2008, 12:43 PM

I know you said you didnt often have time to get loads of fishing done but one idea could be this. Perhaps pay your 'experts' pools onto an open and then sit behind him and watch what he does, you can then constantly ask questions as he/she rings the changes. Also with the person fishing being the tutor, opponents cant have any grumbles with a 'student' sat behind them?! Or can they?

Ian.B · 19th August 2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveL

I know you said you didnt often have time to get loads of fishing done but one idea could be this. Perhaps pay your 'experts' pools onto an open and then sit behind him and watch what he does, you can then constantly ask questions as he/she rings the changes. Also with the person fishing being the tutor, opponents cant have any grumbles with a 'student' sat behind them?! Or can they?

Now that Steve..... is a superb idea !!! - & a lot cheaper than my idea

You would also think it would allow you access into the intimate circles of the elite - oo-errr I'm putting myself off now, I only wanted to learn how to fish better & you find out they're all perverts............

SteveL · 19th August 2008, 04:45 PM

Aren't we all?!!

Just see what your expert thinks to the idea, it makes enormous sense, if they're not catching and they change somethin in there rig, feeding etc you can ask why they've done it, whether it works or not you'll be able to add another string to your bow because they obviously wont change to something unless they've had previous success.

Maybe even say that if they win match you can share the winnings

Oneabung · 19th August 2008, 05:18 PM

The only way these days to get anywhere on commercials is to stick to 1 or 2 venues all the time.

The best piece of advice I can give you is to get to know the guys who are winning the matches - ask them what they are doing and most of the best anglers will not lie to you as they know they are better at a method than others... get the bait and the rigs right and then its just going to be a case of practice and getting on the bank as often as possible.

Ozzie · 19th August 2008, 09:26 PM

Well put oneabung, a lot of these guys nowadays fish the same place 3-4 times a week. My other advice is if you cant give that amount of time then try to join a good fishing club. Yes every club does have its better anglers but ask them questions and you will learn of them. Also in every match you fish, look to beat the anglers either side of you. Rather than only looking at the bigger picture, not every peg you get is a match winner.

Ian.B · 19th August 2008, 10:17 PM

[quote=Oneabung;52435]The only way these days to get anywhere on commercials is to stick to 1 or 2 venues all the time.
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Yes I'm beginning to see that & that's what I plan to do. Not to become some venue expert or anything but just so I can practice/focus more but on less tactics (or practice the basics as it were). Think I'm trying too many things but not often enough to become reasonably good at any of them