jeff

National Service is a good idea weldec but would that only apply to white and black people or all nationalities ? because if it did the country would be half empty in a week, good idea of yours.
I still think our ex-service men and women should be allowed to join the police force but this government reckons they are to regimented and may be more forceful than the police with the public at large, so whats wrong with a good clip around the ear for a scallywag ?

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ian hornby

the only consolation i have is that everything goe,s in circles. so sooner or later we will get back to discipline and order. yes it will happen slowly unless and god forbit a member of the royal family is stabbed to death.( then watch the clowns get of their backsides) but out there someone is already turning the wheels. the tory,s have come up with the idea of shutting down the dole after you,ve been on it for two years. jesus if you,d told me that 6 months ago i would have thought you stupid.
now you can bet brownie is already as we speak taking this on board. if cameron grows just a little more balls and promises to end the human right act, he will win by a lanslide,.brown and his fellow hand ringers also know this, so do the lawyers with their snouts in the trough. no human rights = a 60% cut in buisness. this equals less stupid claims making people more confident to give the low lifes who are robbing their homes a good slap, and so it begins. the police are free to dish out some 1960,s punishments therefor the kids are much less cocky, the parents now at work are too fagged to bother and start to give their children the correct upbringing, why you ask?.well when its your money that you have just earned, your less inclined to pay fines for your kids whereas before the dhss paid them or you did,nt bother. so they instill a bit of fear into their spoilt lives, just like my dad did in the 50,s and all of a sudden the problem is going away. then like all things it goe,s the other way. but thats life folks

compleat tangler

punishment needs to be reinstated at an earlier age. you should truly fear the consequences of your actions as such youngsters dont give a toss at the moment. yes that may create fear initialy but guess what fear turns too as you mature?..............RESPECT. sadly there will always be lost causes but as my children's headteacher told me ' the threat of the cane would keep 99% of the children in line'.and without respect you have what we currently have anarchy. young people stabbing each other with no respect for life nor fear of the punishment. but in reality i believe society is structured this way by design as it serves to generate wealth by desire of materialistic items that people will literally kill for. so in my opinion the powerful decision makers serve their only true god...wealth and therefore finance their detachment from 'our' society into an uber society where like an exclusive golf club dont have to look at , mix with or even acknowledge our existance.

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jeff

According to Blair this " Human Rights Act " he bought in was the best thing he ever did, the best thing for his wife he meant, she has made £millions out of defending crooks and illegal immigrants and terrorists and at the same time the country has gone down the toilet, as Ian wrote lets hope Cameron grows some balls and repels the Act and get the country back on it's feet so we feel safe in our own homes again.

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weldec

Guys I love this polictical debate we have entered into, some home truths coming out and to voice one's opinion is what we need but only if the listener is taking it on board, maybe we should put the general concensus together and post it those concerned.

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billy barbel

Billy i think we would probably be jailed for inciting racial/prejudiced hatred or something crazy like that,we no longer have a right to voice our opinion in this country.I heard that some guys put forward a petition to the goverment regarding immigrants killing our stocked fish and it was thrown out for being racist.

jeff

I remember that petition because my whole family signed it, it was took off like you say but put back on after being re-worded still nothing came of it, like the petition signed by 1million motorists about road charges, this government do as they like that's why we're in a mess and the Englishman doesn't have a voice now if he does say anything he's classed as a racist.

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billy barbel

How offensive jeff "englishman" im a Jock you know !!!!! And we cant say anything either mate.

jeff

Sorry Billy I forgot we're in this together, didn't think you had so much hassle North of the border

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