For heavens sake dont go for the matchbox. Imagine how stupid you will look as it didnt cost you £700 It was only developed by clint elliott and what the hell as he ever won. Wonder what he is doing now? Probably working on some tin pot holiday park as his box wasn't good enough to compare with rive Get yourself the all singing and dancing rive and you will be the main man Spending all that money to sit down really makes you a better angler I shouldn't even be replying to this thread as I can only afford a brilo and they only sell those to sub standard anglers so avoid them at all costs How dare I have an opinion and compare another box to rive. Shame on me. Never leave the house again

What a pull round

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totally agree with you brian, the most expensive pole,box or rod may be lighter,comfier and better looking but its water craft and knowledge that will catch you more fish.

Having a Rive doesnt make you a better angler, nor does having the best pole. I would never have paid the true rrp of my rive £1500.00. Its a shame the bloke I brought it off had more money than sense. He then went on to buy the brand new milo which he is now selling because shock there is a new rive out.

I was happy to keep fishing on my 10 year old boss box, until my mate told me how much he wanted for it, and the fact that he had only used it 17 times due to spending 6 months in asia every year.

Lets put it like this, when you get on a rive you can see why they cost so much and sell alot. Its an awsome seat box ahead of anything in the field, why is every tackle company robbing the rive frame, and getting them made in china at a smaller price because they no its the market leader.

I think any angler who has match fished for a period of time, will have been battered of the next peg by an angler who has a wicker basket a £10 rod, £2 reel etc. Is that not the beauty of our sport that you dont have to spend £1,000.00s to compete.

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Not a pull round Tony, but it does my head in when the only justification that is given, when recommending tackle is that it costs the most, that is not the prime consideration for me, I am sorry to say that this country has fell into a designer/brand culture and if it aint got the right logo on it it must be crap, well thats not for me, my purchases of any item be it tackle or clothing or electrical goods are based on the same criteria does it do the job is it value for money will it last. The only purchases I have made that were brand dictated were motor cars when I worked for Rover, I would have been stupid to have purchased a Nissan or a Ford.
Now convince me why I should purchase a Rive box, but dont use the reasoning of its costs the most. Now thats a pull round

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With all due respect Brian , I've read through all the posts and nobody had said to get a Rive because their the most expensive , its peoples opinions after using the product and finding that they suit there needs . I certainly agree that they dont make you a better angler but what they do is make you more efficient and that will put more fish in your net over the course of a season . From owning an AS1 box to a rive is a massive leap and until you have used one on a few sessions you really dont appreciate the difference they make , you dont get the likes of Nuddy and scotthorne etc using them just because their nice to sit on .

You get the likes of nuddy and scotthorne using them because they are free!
If they had to fork out for one they would probably shop around. Des shipp uses the preston box and he is a top top angler. Doesnt mean his box makes him that because he was still a top top angler with his old box. That goes for all the top anglers. It is skill, knowledge and watercraft that makes that.

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You get the likes of nuddy and scotthorne using them because they are free!
If they had to fork out for one they would probably shop around. Des shipp uses the preston box and he is a top top angler. Doesnt mean his box makes him that because he was still a top top angler with his old box. That goes for all the top anglers. It is skill, knowledge and watercraft that makes that.

I think you will find that niether of those anglers are sponcered by rive they would of bought it fair and square , i would say that in many situations a box is a box but its the times that you need stability and so on that really sets the rive ahead by miles i have had both matchbox and rive and would only buy another rive as its by far the best box out there
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steve ringer had a matchbox and thought it was the dogs danglies but......... hes now the proud owner of a rive st which he says is the best box hes had wouldnt swap it for any other. He was influenced by Alan scotthorne so guess the main man wasnt using it cos it was a freebie but because in his expert opinion it was the BEST!

i rest my case your honour