nice one jimbo!! was going to get some elites this sunday, gona leave the wag this time unless its screaming fish, as not really my thing, looked like a knob as didnt fish it right at all..... maybe hit the silvers this time sneek a few carp out.. unless on a real flyer!!! thanks bud for your input. baz. thomas going up there tomorrow with his dad for a go, hope he sends me some info toooo.... little jammy